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RE: [java-181] Rubber Hits the Road - Design in Action Series

From:	Jim Tivy
Sent on:	Monday, May 18, 2009 1:32 PM

Hi David

Thanks for getting back, good points, comments below:

From: [address removed] [mailto:[address removed]] On Behalf Of David Dossot
Sent: Monday, May 18, 2009 11:07 AM
To: [address removed]
Subject: Re: [java-181] Rubber Hits the Road - Design in Action Series

Hi Jim,

This sounds like a great idea.

Discussing applications could be problematic and may require some context changing in order to protect the innocent. I don't know how much sense such an "anonymization" process can remove from an architectural discussion, though.

[<JT>] I would suggest we try for applications where companies are willing to expose part or all of the technical bits for thoughful response on it. It would be established and communicated beforehand if there were any restrictions on disclosure.

There are lots of computer applications where IP is less of an issue - for example government systems. As well, much of company value is also based on revenue and customers rather than IP. As well, often if companies are serious about IP they have patents.

All that said, we will have to collect more data on this point, but I think we will have something to work with.

Also the first such meetups may be size restricted due to venue - then we can grow from there.

Still, it is worth trying.

Should this be a new meet-up? I guess so, as such talks are way broader in scope than just Java.

[<JT>] My suggestion is targetted at applications that are primarily java applications or have a java piece that is going to be "in play". This way we can operate at the concrete tool level as well as computer science fundamentals.

Cheers,
D.

On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 12:19 PM, Jim Tivy <[address removed]> wrote:

Hi Folks

I am proposing we have some meetups where a designer or architect presents their application and then designers and architects in the audience ask questions and perhaps suggest next steps for technology.

The spirit of this would be to improve the application presented by implementing features differently or how to tackle new features with a evolutionary approach. Revolutionary comments are welcome too, but will be dealt with in a cost/benefit context.

The venue may be smaller, the meetings may be often - but first I need to hear from you that this sounds interesting and effective for all parties involved - that being:

- the organization that is working on the application
- the contributing architects/designers in the audience
- the other members of the audience.

The requirement will be to seed the audience with 3 or more designer/audience types.

What say ye, good idea or bad idea.

If I get a positive response we can have our first such meetup in June.

Jim

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